16:9 Menu?

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Post by ckhouston » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:25 pm

No problem if that is what you prefer.

But, if you mean 720x576 by what you call default, other people reading this need to realize though that it will cause distortion with this workaround while 720x405 will not. And a 720x405 still image background is just as easy to prepare as 720x576.

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Post by Tattoo » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:38 pm

What I mean by the default size of 720x576 is the size that VSO set-up the menus at. All of their menus are 720x576. I add another image for the movie being written over the solid color background.jpg which is Tattoo (DVD Image). I just resize the second image to 470 high to fit between the top and the buttons.

I will try one at the 720x405 like you say to see if that looks any better. Thanks. I made a new menu a while back and changed the sizes in the .ini from 720x576 to 720x480 to see if that would look any better but I didn't like how the buttons were stretched. I like better how they look at 720x576.

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Post by ckhouston » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:50 pm

You mentioned Tattoo (DVD Image) a couple of times. Where is it, maybe I'm missing something?

The 720x576 is the size of the canvas chosen by VSO for menus to be built on. They could have chosen another canvas size but the program assumes it is 720x576 and images included in the templates are designed for that resolution, so changing it causes problems. But canvas size has nothing to do with the 16:9 menu workaround anyway.

Maybe someone else can explain all of this better for you.

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Post by Tattoo » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:15 pm

I understand everything you told me CK. I was just saying what I tried. The Menu Tattoo (DVD Image) is here in the 1] Extra UNOFFICIAL menu templates available for download thread. This is the menu I use for my movies. I like showing the DVD cover image of the movie but now I try to get a wider image to fill more of the background like t he Spiderman 2 image I posted.

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Post by Tattoo » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:38 am

ckhouston wrote:Re-read the guide.

CX2D will stretch a 16:9 background to a 4:3 aspect -- stretching produces distortion. Then your TV streches the converted 4:3 menu back to 16:9 so there is no net distortion of the background. So you should prepare your background as if the CX2D menus were really 16:9 since that is what you are shooting for.

Other menu items (buttons, text snd thumbnails) will be distorted though unless you change them in the template.

Aspect ratio is the physical width divided by the height. Its general definition is

DAR = PAR x RR

where DAR is the displayed aspect, PAR is the aspect of the pixels, and RR is the ratio of horizontal to vertical pixels. Graphics always use a PAR of 1 (square pixel) so DAR = RR, but video uses rectangular pixels. You can see these parameters in your log and in the tree view.

So, if you want a 4:3 menu with a still image background, use 720x540 = 1.333 or any resolution with the same ratio like 1280x960, and use 720x405 = 1.778, or another one like 640x360, for 16:9 menus.

CX2D will resize a still like 640x360 to 720x405 before streching it, so I recommend you do the resizing yourself if you have a good graphics editor, VSO Image Resizer is good if you don't. Make sure aspect is maintained during resizing.

Video backgrounds should be prepared at either 4:3 or 16:9 as described in the guide depending on which aspect you want the menu to display at on your TV.
ckhouston, I've read a lot of your posts and explanations but may have missed this guide you're telling me about. Can you give me the link to this guide or tell me where it is, please? I'd like to read or reread it as you suggest and am not sure of which guide you're speaking of. Thanks...

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Post by ckhouston » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:04 pm

It has been a while but I think I was referring to
ckhouston wrote:There are a couple of ways to make them display at 16:9 in Preventing Distortion of Menu Background Images and Videos in the Guides + Manuals forum. A link for a feature request is also given there.

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Post by Tattoo » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:29 am

Thank you. I actually don't think I read that one yet.

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Re: 16:9 Menu?

Post by prateekstp » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:09 am

ConvertX does the best quality conversions of any consumer priced program out there. If the size of the menu is more important to you than the quality of the video

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Re: 16:9 Menu?

Post by Maggie » Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:58 pm

prateekstp wrote:ConvertX does the best quality conversions of any consumer priced program out there. If the size of the menu is more important to you than the quality of the video

Thank you so much for this message prateekstp! ♥
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