Extreme Slow Burn Times

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FishenFool
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Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by FishenFool » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:20 am

I an having problems with extremely slow burn times using ConvertX to DVD ever since I started using my new LG GE42LU20 External Drive. I used to have good burn times when I was using my Matshita Internal Drive but it bit the dust and wont burn most of the time any more. This is on a laptop computer so installing a new internal wasn't really an option due to price and being a pain to install. This system has an Intel Core Duo T2350 processor and 4 gigs of RAM. All of the USB ports on this system are 2.0 ports. I don't have a complete log from my attempts to burn my project because the last line in my log dealt with doing the LeadIn and after more than 2 hours it only got to 4% and I canceled it. I will paste the partial log that I have of 1 of my attempts to Burn Already Completed Project. Before anyone starts saying anything about my crap CMC Media be aware that I have also tried this with good MCC Media with the same results but don't want to keep wasting my good media. I have also successfully burned the files from the converted project to my Crap Media using IMG Burn and it took less than 10 minutes. That should take care of all comments about Crap Media and USB Drives. I have also been working with one of the VSO Developers on this issue and he asked me to try burning my folder using CopyToDVD and I let that attempt go all the way thru to completion so I will also paste the log from that burn into this message. Be aware that the burn time mentioned in that log is incorrect as it states just under 16 hours but it actually took closer to 40. Here is the log from ConvertX:

2011-04-03 19:52:30 Info BURN: Lead-in burning time (mS) 123452
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Write started 764048 sectors to write
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Init success: DVD-R SAO
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Writing speed requested x4.0, effective x4.0
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Available write speed: 16x ,8x ,4x
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Media ID: CMC MAG. AM3
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Media type: DVD-R
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Scanned files #8, folder #2 - total size 1563654144 b. (1.46 Gb.)
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Inserted media type : DVD-R
2011-04-03 19:50:26 Info BURN: Write started
2011-04-03 19:50:25 Info Disc name: "Harrys.Law.S01E06.HDTV.XviD-LOL"
2011-04-03 19:50:22 Info BURN: Writable disc DVD-R inserted. Ready to write
2011-04-03 19:50:21 Info BURN: Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2011-04-03 19:50:21 Info BURN: Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2011-04-03 19:50:21 Info BURN: New Drive selected : 0:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE24LU20 OL00 [J] (Usb)
2011-04-03 19:50:21 Info Burned folder: "C:\Users\FishenFool\Documents\ConvertXtoDVD\Harrys.Law.S01E06.HDTV.XviD-LOL", Min. media size 1.46 Gb.
2011-04-03 19:49:49 Info BURN: Writable disc DVD-R inserted. Ready to write
2011-04-03 19:48:45 Info 36 Menu templates loaded.
2011-04-03 19:48:43 Info BURN: No disc in drive.
2011-04-03 19:48:41 Info BURN: 2 writer(s) found.
2011-04-03 19:48:41 Info BURN: Loaded DLL "C:\Program Files\VSO\ConvertX\4\vso_hwe.dll" [4.0.13.476]
2011-04-03 19:48:41 Info BURN: Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2011-04-03 19:48:41 Info BURN: Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2011-04-03 19:48:41 Info BURN: New Drive selected : 0:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE24LU20 OL00 [J] (Usb)
2011-04-03 19:48:41 Info BURN: Using Advanced SPTI interface
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info Supported instruction set: sse3
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info Maximum number of threads detected: 2 - parallelize up to 2
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info Tuning Performances for Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU T2350 @ 1.86GHz with 2 core(s) CPU
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info System default language : English (United States)
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info User default language : English (United States)
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info Version : 4.1.10.348
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\VSO\ConvertX\4\ConvertXtoDvd.exe
2011-04-03 19:48:40 Info OS : Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Build 6002: Service Pack 2)
2011-04-03 19:48:37 ---- ******************** Log session start 2011-04-03 19:48:37.269 PID 4420********************

Here is the log from CopyToDVD:

Time Description
4/2/2011 2:46:47 AM Write completed
4/2/2011 2:46:47 AM Total burning time 15:59:35.777
4/2/2011 2:46:20 AM Finalizing...
3/31/2011 10:49:14 AM Lead-in burning time (mS) 123216
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Start Write Buffer
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Start writing...
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Writing speed selected 4x
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Buffer under-run proof enabled
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Writing session #1 and closing disc.
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Open Image file "C:\ProgramData\VSO\COPYTODVD_03312011_104711_174.cache"
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Required sector size : 764048
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Available sector size : 2297888
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Available write speed: 16x ,8x ,4x
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Media ID: CMC MAG. AM3
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM --- Write engine/Filesystem settings ---
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [X] DVD-R SAO first
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [X] ISO 9660 (MS-DOS)
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [X] Joliet (long filenames and Asian characters)
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [ ] Include UDF Filesystem
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM --- General settings ---
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [ ] Erase RW when needed, without warning -> [X] Quick Erase
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [ ] Verify media with VSO Inspector
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [ ] Cache all files (Safe... but slow)
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [ ] Include system files
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [X] Include hidden files
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM --- Multisession settings ---
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [X] Create/Continue multisession media
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [X] If erasable media is detected, prompt to erase it
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Import existing data with the following rule : Always replace file (with new one to be burnt)
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM If a multisession media is inserted, what shall the engine do : Ask what to do
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [ ] Verify media with VSO Inspector
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM [ ] Erase RW when needed, without warning -> [X] Quick Erase
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM -------------------------
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM 120mm DVD
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Detected media $0011 : DVD-R
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Finished browsing files - Data size 1.46 Gb.
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM File scan complete: 9 files, 3 directories
3/31/2011 10:47:11 AM Switching to DVD Video creation mode
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM File scan complete: 9 files, 3 directories
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM Start Browsing file structures
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM IDE Controler manufacturer : Intel
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM IDE Controler Description : Intel(R) 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C4
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM Location : PCI bus %1, device %2, function %3;(0,31,2)
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM Support Media : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM Writing device used : 0:0:0 - HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GE24LU20 OL00 [J] (Usb)
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM Using Advanced SPTI interface
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM Writing speed override from writer selection dialog: x4.0 selected
3/31/2011 10:47:07 AM Volume name: "Harrys.Law.S01E06.HDTV"
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Using File/Directory list.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM --- Memory information ---
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Available Memory : 7661 Mb.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Total Memory : 9724 Mb.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Available extended Virtual Memory : 0 Mb.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Available Virtual Memory : 1927 Mb.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Total Virtual Memory : 2047 Mb.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Memory Load : 50%
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Available Physical Memory : 1517 Mb.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Total Physical Memory : 3061 Mb.
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM -------------------------
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Paramstr #02 : "C:\ProgramData\Vso\WFileList.CTC"
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Paramstr #01 : "-fl"
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Paramstr #00 : "C:\Program Files\VSO\copytodvd\CopyToCd.exe"
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM System default language : English (United States)
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM User default language : English (United States)
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM Version : 4.3.1.12
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM ExeName : C:\Program Files\VSO\copytodvd\CopyToCd.exe
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM OS : Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Build 6002: Service Pack 2)
3/31/2011 10:46:54 AM 32 bits native system
3/31/2011 10:45:58 AM ******************** Log session start 31-Mar 10:45:58.507 PID 6104********************

Here is a log from ConvertX when it would burn at acceptable speeds on my internal Matshita:

2010-06-23 03:00:21 ---- ******************** Log session stop 2010-06-23 03:00:21.301 PID 3996********************
2010-06-23 02:43:49 Info Folder C:\Users\FishenFool\Documents\ConvertXToDVD\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E10.HDTV.XviD-2HD\ has been removed
2010-06-23 02:43:48 Info BURN: WRITE SUCCESS: Disc written
2010-06-23 02:43:48 Info BURN: Finalization Time 00:01:10 - Total completion time 00:09:27
2010-06-23 02:42:37 Info BURN: Write finished in 00:08:16 - Finalization start here. Avg. burn rate 3.80
2010-06-23 02:34:26 Info BURN: Lead-in burning time (mS) 5874
2010-06-23 02:34:21 Info BURN: Write started 1161568 sectors to write
2010-06-23 02:34:21 Info BURN: Init success: DVD-R SAO
2010-06-23 02:34:18 Info BURN: Writing speed requested x4.0, effective x4.0
2010-06-23 02:34:17 Info BURN: Available write speed: 8x ,6x ,4x ,2x ,1x
2010-06-23 02:34:17 Info BURN: Media ID: MCC 03RG20
2010-06-23 02:34:17 Info BURN: Media type: DVD-R
2010-06-23 02:34:17 Info BURN: Ultra DMA mode 2 (ATA33)
2010-06-23 02:34:17 Info BURN: Scanned files #15, folder #2 - total size 2377766912 b. (2.21 Gb.)
2010-06-23 02:34:17 Info BURN: Inserted media type : DVD-R
2010-06-23 02:34:16 Info BURN: Write started
2010-06-23 02:34:15 ---- ***************** Encoding end **********************
2010-06-23 02:34:15 Info Disc name: "the forgotten"
2010-06-23 02:34:00 Info BURN: Writable disc DVD-R inserted. Ready to write
2010-06-23 02:33:58 Info BURN: Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2010-06-23 02:33:58 Info BURN: Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2010-06-23 02:33:58 Info BURN: New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S 1.61 [E] (Ide)
2010-06-23 02:33:58 Info Burned folder: "C:\Users\FishenFool\Documents\ConvertXToDVD\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E10.HDTV.XviD-2HD\", Min. media size 2.21 Gb.
2010-06-23 02:33:58 Info Total size 2267 Mb., Target size DVD5 4300 Mb., Occupation 52.74%
2010-06-23 02:33:58 Info Conversion completed in 01:33:19
2010-06-23 02:33:54 Info Rendering rate: 1.35 x Realtime
2010-06-23 02:33:40 Info DVD duration (incl. menus) 02:05:59 (~ 7559 sec.) - rendering time 01:33:01
2010-06-23 02:33:07 Info Generated duration 2529.55 sec., expected 2529.77 sec.
2010-06-23 02:31:34 Info P-SDT buffer Underflow 1 times, 1267 bytes peak
2010-06-23 02:31:34 Info 84 frames duplicated
2010-06-23 02:30:50 Info Chapter #9 start at 40:0.398
2010-06-23 02:27:48 Info Chapter #8 start at 35:0.098
2010-06-23 02:25:00 Info Chapter #7 start at 30:0.298
2010-06-23 02:22:11 Info Chapter #6 start at 24:59.998
2010-06-23 02:19:09 Info Chapter #5 start at 20:0.199
2010-06-23 02:16:05 Info Chapter #4 start at 15:0.399
2010-06-23 02:09:29 Info Chapter #3 start at 10:0.099
2010-06-23 02:02:43 Info Chapter #2 start at 5:0.300
2010-06-23 01:56:40 Info Audio settings: Automatic With DTS -> AC-3 conversion
2010-06-23 01:56:40 Info Output Stream #2 (AUDIO) - ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 192 kb/s
2010-06-23 01:56:40 Info Output Stream #1 (VIDEO) - mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480 [PAR 32:27 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 8590 kb/s, pulldown: 23.976 -> 29.97 Fps
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info Video processing: Pad (Left:0 - Top:6 - Right:0 - Bottom:6)
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info Video processing: Linear (VSO) resampler (640*352)->(720*468) 2 threads
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info Chapter sequences require 182 Mb. temp space
2010-06-23 01:56:24 ---- ************ Source file #1 END DETAILS ************
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info AUDIO Stream #2 : Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 32 kb/s
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info VIDEO Stream #1 : Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 640x352 [PAR 1:1 DAR 20:11], 23.98 FPS
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info Audio/Video file with 2 stream(s) - Playback order:1 - Queue:0
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info Logical file: G:\Torrents\the forgotten\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E12.HDTV.XviD-XII.avi - 1 file(s) 350 Mb.
2010-06-23 01:56:24 ---- *********** Source file #1 BEGIN DETAILS ***********
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info Video bitrate 0/8590/9608 Kbps (min/avg/max)
2010-06-23 01:56:24 Info OUTPUT ==> Resolution: FULL D1 [720*480], Format: NTSC, Aspect ratio: 16:9
2010-06-23 01:56:24 ---- *
2010-06-23 01:56:24 ---- ======================= TITLESET #3 =======================
2010-06-23 01:56:24 ---- *
2010-06-23 01:55:57 Info Generated duration 2504.22 sec., expected 2504.66 sec.
2010-06-23 01:54:25 Info 50 frames duplicated
2010-06-23 01:53:36 Info Chapter #9 start at 40:0.398
2010-06-23 01:50:16 Info Chapter #8 start at 35:0.098
2010-06-23 01:46:57 Info Chapter #7 start at 30:0.298
2010-06-23 01:43:58 Info Chapter #6 start at 24:59.998
2010-06-23 01:40:46 Info Chapter #5 start at 20:0.199
2010-06-23 01:37:46 Info Chapter #4 start at 15:0.399
2010-06-23 01:34:20 Info Chapter #3 start at 10:0.099
2010-06-23 01:30:42 Info Chapter #2 start at 5:0.300
2010-06-23 01:27:01 Info Audio settings: Automatic With DTS -> AC-3 conversion
2010-06-23 01:27:01 Info Output Stream #2 (AUDIO) - ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 192 kb/s
2010-06-23 01:27:01 Info Output Stream #1 (VIDEO) - mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480 [PAR 32:27 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 5421 kb/s, pulldown: 23.976 -> 29.97 Fps
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info Video processing: Pad (Left:2 - Top:0 - Right:2 - Bottom:0)
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info Video processing: Linear (VSO) resampler (624*352)->(716*480) 2 threads
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info Chapter sequences require 182 Mb. temp space
2010-06-23 01:26:59 ---- ************ Source file #1 END DETAILS ************
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info AUDIO Stream #2 : Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info VIDEO Stream #1 : Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 624x352 [PAR 1:1 DAR 39:22], 23.98 FPS
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info Audio/Video file with 2 stream(s) - Playback order:1 - Queue:0
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info Logical file: G:\Torrents\the forgotten\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E11.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi - 1 file(s) 349 Mb.
2010-06-23 01:26:59 ---- *********** Source file #1 BEGIN DETAILS ***********
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info Video bitrate 0/5421/9608 Kbps (min/avg/max)
2010-06-23 01:26:59 Info OUTPUT ==> Resolution: FULL D1 [720*480], Format: NTSC, Aspect ratio: 16:9
2010-06-23 01:26:59 ---- *
2010-06-23 01:26:59 ---- ======================= TITLESET #2 =======================
2010-06-23 01:26:59 ---- *
2010-06-23 01:26:44 Info Generated duration 2510.03 sec., expected 2510.42 sec.
2010-06-23 01:25:13 Info 28 frames duplicated
2010-06-23 01:24:09 Info Chapter #9 start at 40:0.398
2010-06-23 01:20:24 Info Chapter #8 start at 35:0.098
2010-06-23 01:17:11 Info Chapter #7 start at 30:0.298
2010-06-23 01:14:01 Info Chapter #6 start at 24:59.998
2010-06-23 01:10:57 Info Chapter #5 start at 20:0.199
2010-06-23 01:08:05 Info Chapter #4 start at 15:0.399
2010-06-23 01:05:26 Info Chapter #3 start at 10:0.099
2010-06-23 01:02:52 Info Chapter #2 start at 5:0.300
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Audio settings: Automatic With DTS -> AC-3 conversion
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Output Stream #2 (AUDIO) - ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 192 kb/s
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Output Stream #1 (VIDEO) - mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480 [PAR 32:27 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 4401 kb/s, pulldown: 23.976 -> 29.97 Fps
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Video processing: Pad (Left:2 - Top:0 - Right:2 - Bottom:0)
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Video processing: Linear (VSO) resampler (624*352)->(716*480) 2 threads
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Chapter sequences require 182 Mb. temp space
2010-06-23 01:00:39 ---- ************ Source file #1 END DETAILS ************
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info AUDIO Stream #2 : Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info VIDEO Stream #1 : Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 624x352 [PAR 1:1 DAR 39:22], 23.98 FPS
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Audio/Video file with 2 stream(s) - Playback order:1 - Queue:0
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Logical file: G:\Torrents\the forgotten\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E10.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi - 1 file(s) 350 Mb.
2010-06-23 01:00:39 ---- *********** Source file #1 BEGIN DETAILS ***********
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Video bitrate 0/4401/9608 Kbps (min/avg/max)
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info OUTPUT ==> Resolution: FULL D1 [720*480], Format: NTSC, Aspect ratio: 16:9
2010-06-23 01:00:39 ---- *
2010-06-23 01:00:39 ---- ======================= TITLESET #1 =======================
2010-06-23 01:00:39 ---- *
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info 2 Stream(s) found - est. duration 00:41:21.768, reference 00:41:21.768
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Opening file "G:\Torrents\the forgotten\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E12.HDTV.XviD-XII.avi"
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info 2 Stream(s) found - est. duration 00:40:56.664, reference 00:40:56.664
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Opening file "G:\Torrents\the forgotten\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E11.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi"
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info 2 Stream(s) found - est. duration 00:41:02.424, reference 00:41:02.424
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Opening file "G:\Torrents\the forgotten\The.Forgotten.2009.S01E10.HDTV.XviD-2HD.avi"
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info [x] Multicore support in resize
2010-06-23 01:00:39 Info Project size 4.17 Gb. (172 Mb. audio - 3.99 Gb. video)
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] Don't fix audio gaps
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] Engine Log
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] 2-pass encoding
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info Encoding preset: MP (Medium Projects)
2010-06-23 01:00:38 ---- ****************** Encoding begin *******************
2010-06-23 01:00:38 ---- **************** Menu settings end ******************
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [x] Don't create title menu for single video
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [x] Return to title menu after titleset playback
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [x] Skip root menu initially
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] Play titles one after the other
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] Loop playback
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] Auto-start playback
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info Template: Black Mirror, contains 4 page(s), 15 customizable element(s)
2010-06-23 01:00:38 ---- *************** Menu settings begin *****************
2010-06-23 01:00:38 ---- **************** Burn settings end ******************
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info Default speed selected: 4x
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info BURN: Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info BURN: Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info BURN: New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S 1.61 [E] (Ide)
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [x] Delete DVD folder after burn complete
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] Don't eject disc or open DVD folder in explorer, after burn complete
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info SAO setting: Automatic
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [ ] Add original files to DVD (if possible)
2010-06-23 01:00:38 Info [x] Burn result to DVD / as ISO file in working folder
2010-06-23 01:00:38 ---- **************** Burn settings begin ****************
2010-06-23 00:56:23 Info BURN: Writable disc DVD-R inserted. Ready to write
2010-06-23 00:56:05 Info BURN: Parsing disc ...
2010-06-23 00:51:48 Info 36 Menu templates loaded.
2010-06-23 00:51:45 Info BURN: No disc in drive.
2010-06-23 00:51:43 Info BURN: 1 writer(s) found.
2010-06-23 00:51:43 Info BURN: Loaded DLL "C:\Program Files\VSO\ConvertX\4\vso_hwe.dll" [4.0.7.466]
2010-06-23 00:51:43 Info BURN: Compatible media types : DVD-R, DVD-RW Seq., DVD-RW RO, DVDRAM, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, CD-RW, DL DVD+R, DL DVD-R
2010-06-23 00:51:43 Info BURN: Drive has IDE-ATAPI physical interface
2010-06-23 00:51:43 Info BURN: New Drive selected : 1:0:0 - MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S 1.61 [E] (Ide)
2010-06-23 00:51:43 Info BURN: Using Advanced SPTI interface
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info Supported instruction set: sse3
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info Maximum number of threads detected: 2
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info Tuning Performances for Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU T2350 @ 1.86GHz with 2 core(s) CPU
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info System default language : English (United States)
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info User default language : English (United States)
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info Version : 4.0.9.322
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info ExeName : C:\Program Files\VSO\ConvertX\4\ConvertXtoDvd.exe
2010-06-23 00:51:42 Info OS : Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (Build 6002: Service Pack 2)
2010-06-23 00:51:39 ---- ******************** Log session start 2010-06-23 00:51:39.472 PID 3996********************

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JJ » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:58 am

It seems that SPTI burn engine can't handle burning to USB properly.
USB is very bad choice for burning anyway, since anything using same USB-bus is causing slowdown.
You can see this effect easily with USB stick; try to copy several files simultaneously (start transfer one at a time, not multiselect) and you see that is slows down to crawl.

Things you can try; check that there is no other USB-devices connected while burning, disable internet and all other programs (specially autorun) and leave your computer to do it.

Or - if you still can burn fine with ImgBurn, use it!
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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by FishenFool » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:21 pm

You are speaking about writing multiple individual files to a flash memory device and it is why there is sometimes an issue with running something like a browser as a portable app from a thumb drive. I am using an external dvd burner that happens to be plugged into USB and it receives its data as a stream. The fact that all other burning softwares that I use can give me good burn times to this drive shows that your USB Stick writing analogy is flawed but you are correct that the burning engine used by both ConvertX and CopyToDVD don't work correctly to the USB Connected external drive.

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JoeB » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:07 am

FishenFool wrote:You are speaking about writing multiple individual files to a flash memory device and it is why there is sometimes an issue with running something like a browser as a portable app from a thumb drive. I am using an external dvd burner that happens to be plugged into USB and it receives its data as a stream. The fact that all other burning softwares that I use can give me good burn times to this drive shows that your USB Stick writing analogy is flawed but you are correct that the burning engine used by both ConvertX and CopyToDVD don't work correctly to the USB Connected external drive.
I do not know why the ConvertX burning engine doesn't burn as well to your USB connected burner as other burning software does - perhaps VSO people can answer that.

That said, I wouldn't burn to a USB connected drive in any event with any software, even if that software seemed to burn successfully. DVD media are notoriously finicky to burn to given the various dyes used and manufacturing quality control standards. Also, the best burning requires a constant data stream and good buffering. And present consumer USB drives simply do not provide as good a data transfer rate as internal drives do. So unless there is some restriction that a person faces that requires them to use an external USB burner for burning to DVD media I would always recommend that they use their internal burner for the most optimum results. And "optimal results" doesn't necessarily mean simply that the burned disc actually works with ones players. The quality of the burn might only become apparent over time, or when the media is played on a good variety of different players, etc.

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by FishenFool » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:38 am

JoeB wrote:So unless there is some restriction that a person faces that requires them to use an external USB burner for burning to DVD media I would always recommend that they use their internal burner for the most optimum results. And "optimal results" doesn't necessarily mean simply that the burned disc actually works with ones players. The quality of the burn might only become apparent over time, or when the media is played on a good variety of different players, etc.

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Maybe you missed the part in my first post which mentioned that my internal will no longer write and it costs more money than I care to spend to replace the internal drive on my laptop. Also the external drive gets a better transfer rate than the MatSHITa ever did.

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JJ » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:05 am

FishenFool: USB is a bit more tricky than you think.
My example just showed how easily it can be filled to crawl.
Most systems are using USB for many things, card reader, cam, even sound on some. Some systems use chipsets that share bandwidth with other system resources. I have no idea what your system is doing, but most likely there is something using up USB bandwidth when you are using VSO programs.
SPTI interface is NOT a VSO program, it is Microsoft.
Little research reveals that using SPTI with USB is very prone to halt when errors are found. That seems to be the biggest issue here, your media is low quality (creates a lot of errors) and that slows the process.
ImgBurn is aware of this problem and they have implemented a way to turn off error checking. This of course creates very bad burns.
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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by FishenFool » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:18 am

JJ wrote:FishenFool: USB is a bit more tricky than you think.
My example just showed how easily it can be filled to crawl.
Most systems are using USB for many things, card reader, cam, even sound on some. Some systems use chipsets that share bandwidth with other system resources. I have no idea what your system is doing, but most likely there is something using up USB bandwidth when you are using VSO programs.
SPTI interface is NOT a VSO program, it is Microsoft.
Little research reveals that using SPTI with USB is very prone to halt when errors are found. That seems to be the biggest issue here, your media is low quality (creates a lot of errors) and that slows the process.
ImgBurn is aware of this problem and they have implemented a way to turn off error checking. This of course creates very bad burns.
As I stated in the first post I have the same issue with the good Verbatim media as well. It was also not a very bad burn as I watched the episode that was converted by ConvertX and burned by ImgBurn and had no glitches, drops, or pixelation.

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by Claire » Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:06 am

It is a problem with the burning done by VSO, as FishenFool has has provided Imgburn log file to VSO showing that with same conditions ImgBurns much much faster.

A developer is investigating. Where the problem is coming from is still unknown, but lies within the burning engine. The problem could also be related to what JJ says, that the problem is from the system or hardware but has not found a work around to get by system errors. It might be decided that we do not want to work around as in x percentage of cases the final burn would not be usable .... Regardless, for the moment, ImgBurn is working much better than VSO for this specific case and we need to find out why and if we want/can fix it.

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by jjooeer » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:04 am

i just put a new PC together just so i could run and burn 4 dvds at a time it has an amd phenom 2 x6core 3.3Ghz processor and 16 gb memory and i can open convertxtodvd -2 times and it runs great and fast but as soon as i open it in a 3rd and 4th window it just starts to crawl and take up to 40 minutes to burn a 4.7gb disc even at 16 times burning speeds is my new pc not fast enough to run it 4 times at once or should i be doing something else?

OS is 32bit vista

should i upgrade to windows 7 86bit or 64 bit to fix this any help would be great

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JJ » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:35 am

32bit OS can handle only 4Gb memory, so that is one huge problem.

Other issue is disc access, four instances uses a lot of bandwidth on drives.
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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by jjooeer » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:57 pm

Thanks for the info what kind of settings can I check to increse the bandwith on my pc? I will start today by first updating to an 64 bit os and then reply back .i have looked into bandwith and most of the settings are for internet connections so any settings advice on that would be great
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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JJ » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:15 am

You can not change any settings to fix that bandwidth, that is defined in your system chipset.
Simple test you can try: create 4 files that are over 1Gb each in same folder.
Copy them all separately (no multiselect) to another folder, and while that copying is going on, copy them all to another folder.
See how slow your system gets - that is what is happening when you convert four DVDs at once.
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Post by jjooeer » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:59 pm

i can convert 4 at once with really fast speeds around 13 minutes for a 1.7gb file its just when i try to burn 4 already converted files it slows down. but i am going to install the 64bit windows 7 tonight and i will let you know what happens after that
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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JoeB » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:44 pm

jjooeer wrote:i can convert 4 at once with really fast speeds around 13 minutes for a 1.7gb file its just when i try to burn 4 already converted files it slows down. but i am going to install the 64bit windows 7 tonight and i will let you know what happens after that
thanks again
You don't actually fit 4.7gb on a disc, but assuming the slow burns are with files that are 4.4gb, then that is abbroximately 2.6 times as much data as your 1.7gb files. If it takes 13 min to burn 4 discs with 1.7gb of data each, then it will take at least 34 minutes to burn 4 discs with files of 4.4gb each, and longer given any other stuff that may be happening in the background plus the extra caching necessary.

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by jjooeer » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:18 pm

no they all average around 4.1gb after they have been converted so that cant be the problem like i was saying discs that size take around 13 minutes to burn when i am doing 2 at a time but as soon as i open a third burner they all start slowing down to about 35 to 40 minutes each.thats what i am trying to fix

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JJ » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:09 am

So you have several burners. How are they connected?
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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by jjooeer » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:51 pm

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by JJ » Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:23 pm

Check that your motherboard actually supports using all those connectors simultaneously.
I have found few that support only SATA or only IDE, not both at same time. Not even one of both.
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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by jjooeer » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:37 am

Thanks I will check into that thats about the best answer i have gotten so far

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Re: Extreme Slow Burn Times

Post by jjooeer » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:38 am

i did get the 64 bit windows 7 going and that helped speed things up some to

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