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eskro

Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: some CopyToDVD thoughts.. |
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Hi all!
Been a proud user of ConvertX for a very longtime now
but never got happy with CopyToDVD......
I think its good looking and Main Menu is easy to understand,
but somehow, i think it doesn't make the cut comparing to other
popular burning application...
When your about to Pay for an application, it has to be the Best...
Thing is, Many free burning solution out there can make many user
avoid paying for CopyToDVD in general....
Im a VSO fan!
and would like to see CopyToDVD get an overhaul and get a better GUI!
Also adding options that makes it Different from typical burning applications out there....
Simple ideas like,
Automatic Write Speed depending on which Media is inserted!
Example i could set -> CMC media to get burned at 8x and MCC media at 12x
Also adding support for changing BookType settings,,,
This is very useful for burning DVD+R DL media...
I usually need to make them burn as DVD-ROM.....
unfortunately this is impossible in CopyToDVD....
Anyways, i got many more ideas that can really improve this burning application
but till then, theres ZERO reasons to spend money on it!
Hope you guys aren't mad,,,
im just voicing my opinion...
i would really like to have CopyToDVD in my ToolBox but i can't....

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Cougar_II VSO Fanatic

Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 4495 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
| Quote: | | Hope you guys aren't mad |
I don't think letting VSO know your opinion will make them mad.
I know all developpers at VSO and trust me, when something sucks I ain't scared to let them know
I tell them, oki I understand but as a user, this is wrong, or this is ugly or forget this
I've been using CopyToDVD since v3.0
There's 2 parts to CopyToDVD.
One called the VSO Starter, the little menu with all the choices.
Personally I have NEVER USED it and probably never will.
I open CopyToDVD MANAGER or Blindwrite directly, since i know what I am doing, don't need a GUI menu to do that !
Now about some of your comments...
What wrong with the GUI ?
What would you like to see new, change ?
Personally I adore CopyToDVD since it's simple, light on a system and works like a charm...
I do not want a 50m application to burn my DVDs, go throught 5 menus to get the work done
That's MY opinion...
Now bootyping DVD+R to DVD-ROM can easily be done with hacked firmware, I have my IDE NEC-3550a do just that.
As for DVD+R DL, I assume 99.999% of the drive should booktype them to DVD-ROM I think it's part of the standards out there...
I am not sure Software Bootyping would work with all burners, I know Nero had that I think but not sure it works unless the drive itself supports it.
Auto speed burning, well I default my burn speed to x4.0 so it will not burn above x4.0
If I insert a TYG03 (Taiyo Yuden) media in my Sata LG L20H the slowest supported speed is 8x, is will auto use the lowest supported speed so burn at x8.0
Personally, why try to burn at 12x and 16x when the burn is NOT constant and will most likely have a burn average speed around x8.0 anyway.
I personally suggest people not burn faster than x8.0 to get a solid stable burn across the media.
Also only 1st quality media should be used: Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden, Sony, some TDK
The rest, good luck, you get what you pay for...
Any media made by CMC Magnetics to be are considered garbage !
That's my opinion !!! _________________ VSO Software Golden Membership Proud Owner / VSO Software Beta Tester
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eskro

Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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oh boy :p
many,,
give me some time i'll make a nice post about it with pics and stuff,,,
will report back today! |
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eskro

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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Bags

Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 781 Location: The Rural Plains Of England
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Where is it then?! You've had hours!!
 _________________ Peace ... Bags. |
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eskro

Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Cougar_II wrote: | What wrong with the GUI ?
What would you like to see new, change ? |
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Everytime i launch CopytoDVD Manager or BlindWrite
the Update thing pops up annoying me every single time!
Even after i've set it to update once a Month!!!
#02:
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i find it annoying that i cant double-click
on shortcuts ive made on my Desktop...
theres no reasons we cant do that...
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When creating a Disc
I find it very annoying that once i added files in there,
i cant't Select them All by dragging the mouse cursor...
Like if i want to delete some files or all files whatever...
again, theres no reasons we cant do that...
see screenie...
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Total Install size is --> 108,40MB!!!
ImgBurn is --> 2,91MB and does everything CopyToDVD does!!!
theres no reasons to take that much space...
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Where's the Status Bar that shows how much room is left on the disc???
Just like in NERO or ImgBurn???
#06:
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Again, BookTyping to DVD-rom is really important when burning DVD+R DL Discs....
ImgBurn has settings just for that!
Why not CopyToDVD?
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VSO STARTER is rather ugly in my opinion...
I would kill that ASAP
#08:
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Since killing VSO STARTER,
I would add 2 new items in the window that pops up when launching CopyToDVD Manager!
Like adding Burn and Create Image files!!!
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Having 2 CopyToDVD options in Windows Context Menu is great!
But why not letting users choose if they want them or not!
Even deeper, let users choose specifically which of the 2 they want!
Its all about user interaction here...
My context Menu is already cluttered,,,
I would want them removed from there ASAP....
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Oh and by the way, right-clicking on an image file
dont u think the context menu should show "BlinWrite"???
Would't it be more logic?
Aftfer all, thats what BlinWrite does right?
Burn Image files?
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talking about BlindWrite,
Why dont give users a setting to adjust the burning speed just like in CopyToDVD Manager?
I hate the way it is now...
what if i want to burn my DVDs at 12x but my CDs at 12x too!
I need to play with the settings each and everytime!!
So annoying.. Why not just give users a CopyToDVD Manager type setting in BlindWrite?
see screenie...
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And on the Main BlindWrite interface,
Might aswell add an option to change the write speed! NO?
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When burning a DVD movie using the context menu right-click option,
CopyToDVD asks you to "burn as data" or "burn as DVD-Video"...
But, why not do the same for MP3 Files?
Like if i select a bunch of MP3 Files then right-click and select "burn with CopyoDVD"
Why not have a window pop saying "burn as data" or "burn as Audio CD"
See screenie...
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how can i create an Image file from files/folders on my PC?
So far, in CopyToDVD Manager, We can't right!
And BlindWrite is the same,,, We can't right!
This needs to be adressed.... Every burning application can do that....
So CopyToDVD shouldn't be different!
I often need to create Image files from files/folders on my PC!!!
And because of that, unfortunately, CopyToDVD is a big no no for me...
So i personally suggest adding that function to BlindWrite ASAP!!!
Since BlidWrite is the app that takes care of Image files,
i think its more logic than adding that option in CopyToDVD Manager...
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to continue on suggestion #14,
also add the ability to create Bootable ISO's!
I often need to do that too!
#16:
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Oh and Finally,
Give BlindWrite the ability to create ISO files from Discs...
not only B6T files.... I'm a big ISO fan... and im sure others would agree too!!!
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No, its not over...
I would suggest renaming CopyToDVD --> CopyXtoDVD
Sounds awesome!
and its on the same flow as ConvertXtoDVD!
#18:
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OK finally,
just support more Image files in BlindWrite!!!
The more the better!!!
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People hate NERO because its way too bloated and it became
something else than just a burning application....
Samething needs to be applied to CopyToDVD...
Remove the Backup Scheduler thing + the Audio Player...
C'mon guys... an Audio Player?
It has nothing to do with a burning application!
im in shock

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eskro

Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hope you guys find this constructive because,
it took me a lot of time to create that post...
I just want to remember this isn't about bashing CopyToDVD at all...
Its really just to improve it and make it become the best paid for
burning application on the market!
I really want people to understand that since theirs free alternatives
that can make u burn pretty much anything the way u want,
such as ImgBurn and InfraRecoder,
CopyToDVD really needs to improve in alot of ways to make
people buy it at the END....
If you guys Follow my Suggestions, if ever,
i'll be buying CopyXtoDVD for sure!
No questions asked!!!
=peace=
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Bags

Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 781 Location: The Rural Plains Of England
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Now I see why you took a few hours ... most colourful page I have seen anywhere on the web in years!
It will take me a while to agree ... or disagree with most of these!
A. _________________ Peace ... Bags. |
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eskro

Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Bags wrote: | Now I see why you took a few hours ... most colourful page I have seen anywhere on the web in years!
It will take me a while to agree ... or disagree with most of these!
A. |
take your time
report back!
any comments are welcom'ed! |
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Cougar_II VSO Fanatic

Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 4495 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Hello eskro,
Now that's what I call feedback !
I have read throught them quickly, will re-read again later with more attention to all of them !
I sent an email to VSO Support & CopyToDVD author's before feedback like this deserves an answer from VSO
Let's see what VSO says, what's changes are possible quickly and what will not be on their radar  _________________ VSO Software Golden Membership Proud Owner / VSO Software Beta Tester
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eskro

Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Cougar_II wrote: | Hello eskro,
Now that's what I call feedback !
I have read throught them quickly, will re-read again later with more attention to all of them !
I sent an email to VSO Support & CopyToDVD author's before feedback like this deserves an answer from VSO
Let's see what VSO says, what's changes are possible quickly and what will not be on their radar  |
Perfect and thanx...
i told you theres many things i didn't like
And, alot of them makes sens... at least to me...
Many of these would greatly improve CopyXtoDVD
Feedback from you guys is welcome too!
it did take me like 2 hours to do that post  |
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Claire VSO Team Member

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 1685 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
Thanks for all your well documented requests!
As I mentioned in a private message, we will look over each feature and get back to your shortly.
Thanks so much again. |
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cedric

Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Toulouse-FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Eskro,
I'm the main CopyToDVD developer, and I want to congratulate you for your usefull post!
You have taken time to write your post, I take time to respond (but I haven't a lot...)
I will use all your points to give you my opinion on :
#01:
I will try to reproduce your (real) problem today to fix it for next CopyToDVD version.
Like you are saying, this popup must be displayed only one time by month in your case...
#02:
I can't reproduce your problem...
When I double click on a shortcut, the target folder is opened like a single folder.
Can you give me the CopyToDVD version you are using?
#03:
Reproduced... and fixed. Will be available in next CopyToDVD version.
#04:
You can't say ImgBurn does everything CopyToDVD does!
ImgBurn allow to use Data to burn or build an ISO image, or can burn an ISO (and other image formats) on media.
CopyToDVD is able to :
- Same main ImgBurn functions (Burn a media or build an ISO from data, burn an ISO image on media)
- Create an Audio CD from a lot of audio formats (mp3, wav, wma, ogg, flac...).
It can extract the audio track from a video file (like a "live concert") to create an Audio CD too.
You can use the CopyToDVD media player to play your audio file.
- It can fix a lot of problems on a DVD Video structure before burn
- You can do a disc to disc copy (using Blindwrite) from crap media where a lot of read errors will be fixed
- You can use Backup scheduler to plan automatic backup of your important data files.
- CopyToDVD is directly integrated in Windows explorer and will detect the more adapted burn method (Data, Audio CD, DVD Video, Blu-ray video).
- CopyToDVD is available in 28 languages at first installation, no more download needed.
- CopyToDVD can add some little plugins (audio player, photo slideshow) on your disc to play your burned files without any 3rdparty tool.
All these tools take a lot of place for installation, but I don't see any program I can remove?
#05:
I don't know the CopyToDVD version you use, but if it's the last, I think you have disabled the "Wizard style" in "View" manager menu.
If you enable it, you will see a toolbar like that :
#06:
Yes, this function is not yet implemented...
This feature is in the CopyToDVD tasklist, but don't wait for next version to have it... have a low priority
#07-08:
Maybe VSO Starter is not needed by you because you are easy with PC, but a lot of people wants to be helped.
Openning CopyToDVD manager without more explanation will lost a lot of people...
#09:
You can enable/disable (hide/show the shortcut) the CopyToDVD depot feature in CopyToDVD manager.
In "options" manager menu, just uncheck the "Use file depot" option.
#10:
CopyToDVD can burn an ISO image like Blindwrite can, but some special CopyToDVD versions (CopyToDVD "lite") don't have Blindwrite installed by default. We don't want to lose the ability to burn ISO image for this type of installation.
#11:
Good feature request, added in Blindwrite tasklist!
#12:
In your screenshot, the write speed selection is not showed because Blindwrite is waiting for you select a source media... If you haven't a media inserted, it can't show you the available writing speed...
If you insert a media, you will see that:
#13:
This feature is already in CopyToDVD, but to be prompted to burn an audio cd, you must have a CD media type inserted, and the total audio duration of your selected files should not be more than your blank CD capacity.
#14:
Sure, you can do an ISO image file of your data using CopyToDVD!
You must enable the "Add ISO file destination to drive list" option in CopyToDVD settings, in "Writing engine" section.
After activating this option, you will have a new item in you burner list called "ISO image file", if you select this item, you will be prompted to select your ISO image file name/location before the image creation start...
#15:
Already in CopyToDVD tasklist...
#16:
Blindwrite can create an ISO image, you must select the "ISO image" profile and start the process...
#17:
We entrying in the new Blu-ray age, and I think CopyToDVD is not very up to date like CopyXToDVD.
Like CopyToDVD is able to burn on CD, DVD, HDDVD and Blu-ray, CopyToX should be more adapted (but not very beautyfull...)
I don't know if we will change the name at his time.
#18:
I'm agree with you, but Blu-ray support have the high priority now.
#19:
VSO media player is a single 3rd application, but it's a "plugin" of CopyToDVD manager too.
A lot of people are using it, I can't remove it now...
Thank you for your post, I can send you a private message to add you in our beta tester list if you want...
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eskro

Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 91
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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#02:
I'm using CopyToDVD 4.3.1.10
#04:
ImgBurn does create Audio CDs from audio files... (mp3, wav, wma, ogg, flac...)
ImgBurn is also integrated into Windows Shell....
it can also do a disc to disc copy
Backup scheduler bloats CopyToDVD...
little plugins (audio player, photo slideshow) bloats CopyToDVD...
extract the audio track from a video file bloats CopyToDVD...
And CopyToDVD is 37 times heavier than ImgBurn...
thats wild...
#07-08:
then keep the VSO STARTER but give it these 6 options upon startup!
i mean look at this other freeware tool called --> Infra Recorder
all needed options are there + isn't it just beautiful?
by the way, Infra Recorder takes ~8mb once installed....
a 100mb less than CopyToDVD and like ImgBurn, it does it all!!!
#09:
Then why just "CopyToDVD Depot" ?
Why not the ability to disable "CopyToDVD" too from there?
#10:
uhm, weird, but ok... 2 softwares that can burn ISO's...
confusing....
i thought BlindWrite was the one handling Image Files...
Then, i still suggest integrating BlindWrite to Windows Shell...
Just give us an option we can tick!
#14:
Great we can create ISO's using CopyToDVD Manager...
but why not make the option by default?
Theres no reasons we have to digg in the options for that...
#17:
then since we are entering the Bluray era,
you can simply call it --> CopyX
just like the abbreviated --> ConvertX
#19:
as for the VSO media player, im still in shock....
built-in windows media player can already play audio files....
it bloats CopyToDVD sorry....
Thanks for taking time to write me back
i hope my suggestions will help increase sells...
Altho i'll probably wont end-up using CopytoDVD because of all those reasons,
it doesnt mean every one in the world is like me
Yes im a power user i may say...
And hate bloated NERO like many others and thats why
a burning application should stick to burning...
Not play Audio files, neither backing up PC files...
we have SHADOW PROTECT or MACRIUM REFLECT just for that... |
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