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Lee



Joined: 01 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Probably a Dead Project? Reply with quote

I have heard about this shocking news today.

Its a superb project.. if its gonna be freeware it will be beaten by many other freeware versions of photo galleries software
why create a project and go so far and give up ?

This project could be awarding and award winning software by many hosted Freeware/shareware Review sites

I love to see this project finished and polished and see the final result

Lee
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your comment, indeed, the main share holder is considering this project is a waste of time.
it was designed to offer an alternative to too big alternative such Picasa, but also to be a getaway to use other vso's products.

for now, Photo Gallery can sort and handle 3 ratings methods to unify sort defined by 3rd party products, it can easily scan or take screenshot and save them to .jpeg without any additionnal step.
can read RAW files thru internal codecs or using WIC.
can convert to Black and White with professionnal profile. and crop pictures easily and make a copy automatically as it has been defined like the top used function by users on a vso's web site poll.
and we were planning to add more GPS geotagging and information display.
for now , the project is in stand by unless more people confirm there is an interest in that product.
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JohnDH



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: VSO Photo Gallery Reply with quote

Obviously you are not going to really know if this product is "liked and used" or not until it is marketed. What will Japan's and USA's opinion be once they even know it's there.
Personally I vote to go with it. I have shot posters, book illos (500 in one book) a music alblum cover, movie set stills etc in 35, 4x5, 8x10 120 and digital. Photo Gallery is a nifty little app with a lot of nice features. The pro BW treatment alone is worth the installation. It's easy to use for "mom and pop" but is attractive to the more professional user too.
I hope it gets out there with more goodies added in the future.
You won't really know for sure until it is marketed which means surveyed too. Real RFO (really find out) surveys. Exclamation
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subby



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an avid and faithful VSO image product user, this news saddens me. I felt as though VSO-PG had a lot of potential as a professional solution for real photographers who couldn't be bothered with flashy options like Picasa, and doesn't want to dish out the moola for the bloated Lightroom.

Things I like about VSO Photo Gallery
    -Almost unreal installation speed
    -Attractive style without being too graphic intensive, important for fast work
    -Full rating support
    -Fast RAW browsing
    -Excellent and powerful black and white conversions
    -Almost unreal installation speed
    -Actually functional, easy to use, NO learning curve at all.
    -Not based on databases and importing, just work with the folders as they are on your computer.
    -Integration with my favourite program ever, VSO Image Resizer.


Reasons why you should continue developing this program
    -As it is right now it's not ready for full public acceptance, it still needs a bit of general fine tuning and development. Don't expect rave reviews on this product until you spend a bit more time developing it. Trust me though, it will pay off.
    -I understand this isn't your main market, as is your dvd authoring tools, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't own the photo market too. Come for the photo tools, stay for the video tools?
    -I hear you guys have researched a lot about geotagging with the hopes of adding this functionality to VSO-PG. I believe that if you're ahead of the curve with geotagging support, you will lead a very big movement with photographers around the world, myself included.
    -This program needs keywords support, haha.
    -If you were to never update this program to support new RAW files it will eventually become completely outdated and unusable, so at a minimum you should continue support for new RAW libraries as they come out.


Please don't underestimate the potential of this program. Don't just assume that because Picasa exists that there is no room for this software, trust me this software is for a different class of user!

I agree with Lee (and JohnDH, didn't see your post there), let's keep this program alive, please.

Sebastien Benoit
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Berend



Joined: 16 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the photo on web export feature, it creates a really nice slideshow website without hassle. Well done! Smile
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hansK
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello VSO,

It's a pitty if VSO would now stop the development of Photo Gallery.
It is so close to a perfect tool for amateur and professional photographers.
You can create without a hassle, at home in all peace, your to be printed pictures into
a folder and to be copied on a transportable media(USB stick, CD/DVD).
Go with your transportable media(USB stick, CD/DVD) to a direct print shop/station and you
need only to say: Print all data(pictures) 1 time in the desired size/Aspect Ratio.

In my opinion it needs only 2 additional features, I entered them already some time ago at BTS.

1]
http://bugs.vso-software.fr/view.php?id=2939

Set a desired Aspect Ratio when cropping/"correcting" a picture what not was taken with
the printer paper Aspect Ratio.
With that feature, users are able to select/save the part what will be printed.
Photo printing shops(your local photographer) or those stand alone kiosk instant printing systems at
supermarkets have only fixed Aspect ratio paper size.(european paper size: 10x15, 13x18, 15x20,20x30 cm, etc(close to 2:3 AR))
Many amateur photographers have set their camera to the wrong Aspect ratio(4:3, 16:9), causing loosing a part of the
picture when using the default values/paper sizes of the kiosk system settings.

I installed for this feature Microsoft office 2007, only using the integrated picture manager.(need license)

2]
http://bugs.vso-software.fr/view.php?id=2940

Multiple copy of source picture into target folder.
(when using the function "Copy to folder...")
Users will end up in target folder with the proper amount of pictures to be printed.
They need only to say/enter: Print all pictures 1 time.

I installed FileBoss and use only function make x duplicates of the original.(need license)


Now I need 3 programs, have to buy them, and the knowledge how they work to come to the same result.
Photo Gallery could have that in one program.

It is a very time saving "operation" if done at home instead of standing at your photographers
shop/kiosk system and have to select/adjust the desired pictures.


Regards,
hansK
(Beta tester for various VSO products)
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Berend



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having photogallery convinced me to buy the VSO programs it chains to. It is really nice how VSO manages to make easy to use programs without sacrificing performance or compromising on quality. I hope you will be able to continue to offer photogallery too.
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Alainh31



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why cancelling a so good program !!!

PhotoGalery is a really good soft, and all developments done on it are interesting for a photographer like me.

It's the only time I saw a team listening what users want ...
For me it was the good strategy and the soft is near to be the best I need ...

So, just a question ...WHY ???
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Cougar_II
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I used ACDSee since v1.00 to view my images, so it was not easy to remove ACDSee out of my mind, so sadly I did not catch up on VSO Photo Gallery for a long time.

Slowly as it was developped, I started to use it, and now because it's free (I have a Golden Membership) I started to install it on all my PCs and use it as my main image viewer.

I am not a photo expert, so no need to super features in there Shocked

I do not have major issues with it, does what it's suppose to and serves my needs...

I am a little sad it will stop beeing developped.

I could see a project being stopped when you are working on the foundation and see it's gonna go no where, but for Gallery, there's been enought time and effort to continue on it, it's almost there, it's usable and it works...

My personal opinion !

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toaddub



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the previous posters. VSO Photo Gallery was on the way to becoming a competitive product out there.

Here's what I love about this product:
  • It's FREE - a big welcome for the freeware community at large.
  • Integration with Image Resizer and PhotoDVD.
  • Integration with Black and White filter and Seam Carving - a nice addition.
  • Ability to acquire image from a scanner and it works.
  • Interface is intuitive and user friendly with selective context-menus.
  • Quick startup and no CPU intensive.
  • Resizable and scrollable thumbnails that other software lacks.
  • Exposure of resize filters to choose from.
  • Capture of clipboard image and place in the folder of your own choosing with automatic filename ability.
  • Provide a Favorites pane for frequently-used folders.
  • Has more features than any other simple commercial product.

There are still some features and enhancements that need to be worked on.
  1. The generation of thumbnails will need to be a lot faster when compared with windows explorer thumbnails.
  2. Support for more camera integration.
  3. More features in Additional Editing area.

I prefer this product over other ones that have more flashy GUI but no real functionalities.

Please KEEP this product ALIVE. When more exposure about this product is spread, I'm sure more users will be using it. It will be a great gesture and publicity for VSO to provide such free software.
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colok



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard about this shocking news today too.

I would like to see this project finished and i would like to see the final result

Freeware is good for the communication.

This allows to know the brand of the software and get people to visit your website and why not, perhaps buy other programs!

Evil or Very Mad

Best regards
Colok french translator of all VSO Software
www.colok-traductions.com

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jphi2a



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ,

I read this news today and I'm worried.

I'm an user beta test Photo Gallery application and , when I'm not big treatment, it's the better application to increadse the quality of my photos quickly.

But, I have another question. I'm Photoonweb user. so, If you will cancel Photogallery project , what about PhotoOnWeb ? it is dead too ? because PhotoGallery was very convenient to use it with PhotoOnWeb.
It looks like that plug-in in Photogallery are in PhotoonWeb too.

Photoonweb is not perfect but, it 's the only application with the template choice to personalize the gallery.
I prefer this application to show my galleries to my friends instead of to use flickr, Google or other. they are less beautiful and the size of photo is not attractive when I compare them to Photoonweb..

thanks in advance to to reassure me on this subject.
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colok



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's usable and it works !

So , i don't understand...

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jphi2a



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes , it's works..no problem but , in the future ?
dead project with no developpment as Photo gallery ?
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ines



Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonjour

cela serait vraiment dommage de tout laisser tomber!!

merci pour ce qui est fait,
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lapinou



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a newest version ( the last one ) of vso photo gallery has been published there :

http://download2.vso-software.fr/vso_photo_gallery_setup.exe

it includes new feature requested by Hans and explained in another thread of the forum
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colok



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks !
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alan1476



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very sad. To see a project that so much time was devoted to just declared " Dead" is sad. It works fine and just needed a little more time but this is not my decision and I respect Lapinou and the other developers opinions. Maybe they can get the main programs like ConvertX4 and CopytoDVD4 into more homes, they are the best out there and I love them and look forward to every update. I just think that Bluray is a waste of time, I dont think it will last. Just my opinion. I would like to thank Lapinou for all his hard work and hope that VSO prospers in the future.
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lapinou



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about blu-ray, let's see it is the most obvious investisment to do, because except the "photo products" I was trying to develop to make some other products available for a new public, I don't know what is the most useful tool to develop for VSO.
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