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[justerin]

i have NO problem with DVD-R dvd's, but when i try to use DVD+R, the movie ALWAYS freezes. i am using the same brand dvd (maxell). what am i doing wrong?

[hansK]

Hi,

-Does your player support/play DVD+R?
See the manual of your DVD player.

-Post the log of a not working conversion.
Help -> open log file and copy/paste the section containing the conversion.

Regards,
hansK

[Cougar_II]

i have NO problem with DVD-R dvd's, but when i try to use DVD+R, the movie ALWAYS freezes. i am using the same brand dvd (maxell). what am i doing wrong?

Hi,

Using the same brand means nothing !

Several companies makes media for Maxell.

Some of those DVD-R may a media id of MXL R... which are 1st class media.

Some Maxell DVD+R are made my CMC Magnetics, media id is CMC MAG which are way better in quality, 2nd or even 3rd class quality.

So buying media is a pick a pack and let's see if your lucky.

This is why I personally only purchase

Taiyo Yuden & Verbatims media.

You always get the same quality, no 20 companies makes media for those 2 companies.

YES they might be more expensive (Specially Verbatims) but I don't recall to even bomb one of those or ever have issues with them.

[whitehawkmante]

They are actually very simillar.

DVD-R:
A write-once format that is compatible with many existing DVD Players, Recorders and DVD-ROM drives. Can only be used in DVD Recorders and Burners that support DVD-R recording or multi-format recording (drives that record "plus" or "dash"). Holds 4.7GB of data or video. Typically, it can hold 2 hours of MPEG-2 video on standard (SP) speed setting.

DVD+R
Another write-once recordable DVD format developed seperate from DVD-R. These discs are basically the same as DVD-R discs. They hold 4.7GB of data or video and are compatible with most DVD Players and DVD-ROM drives. They can only be used in DVD Recorders and Burners that support DVD+R or multi-format recorders.

[JoeB]

Some Maxell DVD+R are made my CMC Magnetics, media id is CMC MAG which are way better in quality,....

I think you meant to say "which are way worse in quality...."

Regards,

JoeB

[ComputerGuru269]

They are actually very simillar.

DVD-R:
A write-once format that is compatible with many existing DVD Players, Recorders and DVD-ROM drives. Can only be used in DVD Recorders and Burners that support DVD-R recording or multi-format recording (drives that record "plus" or "dash"). Holds 4.7GB of data or video. Typically, it can hold 2 hours of MPEG-2 video on standard (SP) speed setting.

DVD+R
Another write-once recordable DVD format developed seperate from DVD-R. These discs are basically the same as DVD-R discs. They hold 4.7GB of data or video and are compatible with most DVD Players and DVD-ROM drives. They can only be used in DVD Recorders and Burners that support DVD+R or multi-format recorders.

You forgot to mention that DVD+R has much better error correction algorithms than DVD-R. I ALWAYS use +R media.

[stevejone]

That is the reason they becomes bad in sectors in very less time.
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[ComputerGuru269]

That is the reason they becomes bad in sectors in very less time.

If you're responding to my comment, you need to increase your knowledge on media. A lot of people falsely assume/think +r and -r are basically the same because they look the same, they're not. Here's a link that may help explain differences if interested.
http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/10/30/how-to-choose-cddvd-archival-media

If would like to investigate further, just do a Google search for "dvd+r error correction". I got 292,000 hits.

The ONLY time I would recommend using -r for archival purposes is if you have an old player, a lot of older players can't play +r, that's the only reason a lot of people who know recommend using -r for video. Of course, in the end though, neither lasts forever and I wouldn't use any optical media to store a home video for my great-great grandchildren to watch because it likely won't play by then, lol. Using quality media is a big factor as well.

[JJ]

That stevejone like many others seem to be scripts, there has been lot of those lately.
They are usually easy to spot with similar signatures and avatars, and usually replies that are not constructive or helpful. Just comments about previous posts.
I have already banned a few of those that have not responded correctly to private messages, and will continue to do so.
This forum is not training ground for spammer scripts.

[peleus]

[quote="justerin"]i have NO problem with DVD-R dvd's, but when i try to use DVD+R, the movie ALWAYS freezes. i am using the same brand dvd (maxell). what am i doing wrong?[/quote]

DVD+R cannot copy the descrambling codes found on DVD video discs, so commercial discs cannot easily be duplicated. I think that's the reason why you got issues here.

[JJ]

DVD+R cannot copy the descrambling codes found on DVD video discs, so commercial discs cannot easily be duplicated. I think that's the reason why you got issues here.

That is just nonsense. Older drives could not directly copy older protected DVDs, just like new drives can't copy new protected DVDs now.
It has nothing to do with -R or +R.
I did quick googling and found several years old article where was this "answer", word to word.
Later on that same topic there is more technical info that is a little bit more correct, so reading all of that might be wise...
Or find more about DVD protections, internet is full of information.

[ComputerGuru269]

DVD+R cannot copy the descrambling codes found on DVD video discs, so commercial discs cannot easily be duplicated. I think that's the reason why you got issues here.

Since when does ANY media COPY ANYTHING? All media is is storage, the type of media your using has nothing to do with removing protection. It's software that actually breaks copy protection and copies retail discs. If you mean copy the protection to a copy of a DVD so that even the copy is copy protected, that would still be a software thing and why the heck would anyone want to do that to begin with? And as far as I know, the only protection that there hasn't been a work around for last time I checked is Cinavia. There are firmware bypasses for PS3 but no actual utility to remove it from the actual DVD.

[JJ]

Well, there are several protections that can never be broken, like Wii having barcode in non-writable area.
System checks for that and if there is no correct code it will not work. Of course with mod-chip this can be avoided.

[ComputerGuru269]

Hey JJ!

I was referring to movie DVD's, not console games. Just mentioned PS3, because of the firmware bypass for Cinavia protection on retail movies.

[jude1]

Hi folks Hope i'm in the right place.

I use Verbatim blank dvd-r AZO have done for years I have good writer and pc I use a good burning software and use cx2dvd 5 for conversion, my problem when i have burned some discs they burn halfway with burning errors some burn successfully ok but have strange marks round the discs and when played on dvd players the film freezes or goes back to the beginning or does not play at all? please help i'm stuck on this. :? :? :? :?

[JJ]

Hi folks Hope i'm in the right place.

I use Verbatim blank dvd-r AZO have done for years I have good writer and pc I use a good burning software and use cx2dvd 5 for conversion, my problem when i have burned some discs they burn halfway with burning errors some burn successfully ok but have strange marks round the discs and when played on dvd players the film freezes or goes back to the beginning or does not play at all? please help i'm stuck on this.

This sounds like bad media. They can cause any problems, what is the media ID in those?

[jude1]

[quote="JJ"][quote="jude1"]Hi folks Hope i'm in the right place.

I use Verbatim blank dvd-r AZO have done for years I have good writer and pc I use a good burning software and use cx2dvd 5 for conversion, my problem when i have burned some discs they burn halfway with burning errors some burn successfully ok but have strange marks round the discs and when played on dvd players the film freezes or goes back to the beginning or does not play at all? please help i'm stuck on this. :? :? :? :?[/quote]

This sounds like bad media. They can cause any problems, what is the media ID in those?[/quote]
media ID ? sorry could you explain this for me thnaks

[JJ]

burning-playback-issues-dvd-media-guide-read-this-first-t123.html

[jude1]

Mmmm I do burn 8x or 4x and Verbatim AZO dvd-r now all this is jargon to me why cos i'm a lass :lol:
well can't seem to find firmware for my device not sure who is manufacturer hitachi or hp it is a driver that came with hp pc but don't know model number and discs IDE sorry guys the media I burned to shows strange marks around the disc like it's burned and not burned that's when they don't play but say completed successfully I use
IDEALDVD COPY UPTO DATE SOFTWARE WHICH i PAID FOR. I am right clicking in device manager-dvd-cd rom then i'm stuck.

[JJ]

media I burned to shows strange marks around the disc like it's burned and not burned that's when they don't play

That is bad media in most cases. There should either be blank or clear area of burned data. No marks, all burns create "rings" starting from center of disc.
Anything else means that either disc is damaged or so low quality that dye is fading.

If you read that topic you will learn about what media ID means, and how you can check your discs media ID.
Simply put: media ID is manufacturers mark. It tells where and who has made that blank disc. Some factories are top quality, sadly way too many are medium to low quality.